June 2022 --> February 2023. The kid has grown two inches. The trucks have grown even faster.
This is not fine.
#RoadSafety #VisionZero #VehicleSize #Trucks #RegulateVehiclesNow
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@DrTCombs Trucks getting huger is an active ongoing thing? Wow.
Also holy SHIT those are huge.
@DrTCombs it would only be an issue if it were a ford
@DrTCombs I can't find it, but someone in the past few days put together a graph based on hood height, length, and angle for various trucks, The M1 Abrams won for pedestrian visibility.
@olavf @DrTCombs Wow! A tank with better visibility than some pickup trucks? We don't let tanks drive around our cities, why such big pickup trucks?
https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/10z14dz/how_far_is_a_child_visible_from_various_stock/
@Scott1984FP @DrTCombs work in progress
@Scott1984FP @DrTCombs bad thing is we're taking everything else with us
@DrTCombs …hey? 😳🥺
No one ever went broke in America selling hyperthyroidal gas guzzlers to insecure people overcompensating for their inner feelings of inadequacy.
@DrTCombs Also- the lights are getting brighter. So- in a normal size sedan, there is no way to get away from the now higher and brighter and blinding beams. It just doesn’t seem safe.
@DrTCombs, I'm pretty sure the one on the right is lifted. Which just says the consumer took something awful and made it worse.
We regulate window tinting. Why not height?
@DrTCombs Same madness like with the weapons, and likely very much the same people who buy those things.
@timforgot @DrTCombs no, the one on the left is showroom stock height.
@DrTCombs @radundtat „Truck“ is the correct word, these are no more „cars“
@DerPrada @DrTCombs @radundtat I would say at this scale, the truck is a type of car, albeit one made for heavy cargo... and Chelseaan middle class arsehats.
@DrTCombs
As per the imminent "But why..??" question, science already answered a closely related issue:
https://psyarxiv.com/uy7ph/
#regulatevehiclesnow #trucks #vehiclesize #visionzero #roadsafety
@DrTCombs sorry to break that to you, but normal world does. It have such monstrosities. Only US.
@DrTCombs It seems the cocks have grown even smaller.
@DrTCombs Surely these are foresters' vehicles. 🤪. People who think that bigger is better - mostly don't use the brain they have.
@DrTCombs @kentindell Okay, I get it and US pickups are pretty dumb for what they’re mostly used for, but…
The one on the left is standard height and the one on the right has had an aftermarket lift.
Why would your child ever be standing with their nose to the grille of a truck?
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell crosswalks exist. In right on red states the drivers are usually looking left and can easily miss someone crossing from the right. And when there isn't any daylighting before the crosswalk, one of these parked there will block any pedestrian from other drivers' view until they are on the street. And even if visibility wasn't a problem, physics are because pedestrian collisions happen and the shape sends the victim head first to the ground.
@ekuber @ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell
One of those is literally parked on a sidewalk. Like, they're not distant from places one would reasonably expect to find children. Indeed, they are literally taking over that space and making it hazardous.
It also used to be relatively safe to walk through a car parking lot, but now kid either need to be in the middle of the lane, which is dangerous, or near the cars which is even more dangerous.
I usually think "generational" analysis is flawed, bit there does seem to be a large part of the US that literally wants to kill children.
@celesteh @ekuber @DrTCombs @kentindell
My issue here is the comparison of apples and oranges undermining a valid point.
I could not agree more with that final statement. As a Brit in the US, I find it almost unbelievable how irresponsible many in this country are when it comes to child safety. It’s appalling.
@celesteh @ekuber @ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell The funny thing about parking lots is that in Texas, they all back their compensation aids into the parking spots "for safety", meaning that not even the backup cameras can save pedestrians walking by when they pull out of their spot.
@ajpbradley
In both cases, the kid is exactly where she is supposed to be. On a sidewalk
@kentindell
@DrTCombs There is no excuse for parking on a sidewalk like that, I agree completely.
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell "Why would anyone walk or stand near a car?" seems an odd question to me. Maybe that's just my European brain, though.
@passy @DrTCombs @kentindell That’s not what I said.
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell Being with the nose against the grill is not required to be outside the field of view.
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell This is such a stupid, disingenuous statement.
Vehicles like this after on roads which are shared spaces. They have to interact with pedestrians. This means that they need to be able to see pedestrians, including pedestrians who are in the streets.
Bikers. Mopeds. People in crosswalks. People *not* in crosswalks. Children playing on neighborhood streets.
@savanni @DrTCombs @kentindell You seem to be under the misapprehension that as a pedestrian, cyclist and river, I disagree with you. I don’t.
These trucks are mostly unnecessary, but this *specific* comparison is misleading as one is stock height and one is modified.
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@ajpbradley @savanni @kentindell It doesn't matter whether it's stock or lifted. It'll kill kids either way.
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell they’re not standing “with their nose to the grille”, they’re a couple of feet away. Imagine the truck pulling up to a crosswalk at an intersection (and pulling right up to the line, or perhaps a bit over, because they can’t see the line from up there), and kids are walking across the street, the light changes to green and the driver steps on the gas, because they’re in a hurry, and runs over a kid they didn’t see, who is crossing a bit late. Now the kid’s dead.
@ajpbradley @kentindell because standing in front of a truck shows the absurdity of the size of trucks we allow in pedestrian spaces. and also because I don't want to put her face on the internet.
it's not a big leap to go from standing with their nose facing a truck to walking in a crosswalk in front of a truck.
@ajpbradley @DrTCombs @kentindell Because they are crossing the road, and the driver is being typically negligent...
@DrTCombs Probably worth noting that's a sample size of two.
@jamie
Ahhh my bad for trying to tell a story with photographs
@DrTCombs stop feeding them🙃
@DrTCombs I am actually reminded of a thing in The Netherlands that no longer is quite true. It used to be that for adults cycling most would reliably be taller then the cars around us. So you could see over them and stand out as well.
Which is another argument in favour of upright bicycles, but also against even moderately tall cars.
@DrTCombs This is disheartening.
@DrTCombs
The Simpson were right on the money:
https://images.app.goo.gl/rc9oUwQpMKLujhb3A
@DrTCombs I just don't understand how we allow this? When we first moved to Canada 15 years ago I was shocked at the size of vehicles over here, compared to those in Europe. I asked the car dealer what their most energy-efficient car was & they looked at me as if I was mad. I thought it would get better & I'd have more choice since it was obvious that transportation was impacting the climate. Instead it has got worse. #CarCult #CarBrain #ClimateActionNow #RoadSafety #VisionZero
@ellenor2000 @DrTCombs Yes, of sorts. Even now, the choice is lacking.
It's no longer an issue for me as we went #CarFree as a family last year. I have a #TUV, which stands for Tern Utility Vehicle 😉
https://mastodon.world/@sflkirk/109767355967487701
If we need a car, we use a #CarShare program which means either a Prius hybrid or a Kia Rio, both of which are reasonable for fuel efficiency.
Best of all, we save around $200/month (CDN) not owning a vehicle! #GoCarFree
@DrTCombs Adding to the horror is that the red truck is on the sidewalk, and therefore elevated, but the black one is still higher
@DrTCombs More and more seem to see the road as a warzone where you have "to stand your man". For me it's disgusting and I cannot understand it. And it tells me that gasoline is still way too cheap.
@DrTCombs and how often do these trucks leave paved roads?
@DrTCombs @slightlyflightyone I really don't like to have to be That Person, but in the second picture it's pretty obvious to me that those trucks are lifted slightly by being on on custom wheels & rubber. It's not clear whether the truck in the first picture has been customized in the same way, because it's purely face-on to the grille.
The comparison, and the argument made from it, is kind of invalidated by those ambiguities. :x
@dragonarchitect Then don't be that person? It's a deadly vehicle regardless.
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@DrTCombs @slightlyflightyone I wholeheartedly agree with that claim. No debates there.
But I've seen a few too many similar-ish arguments to this one made where the image(s) used as proof had been altered or set up in such a way as to over-accentuate the comparison by exploiting most people's lack of knowledge about the actual sizes of the behemoths rolling on American roads today. That disingenuity is what bugs me.
Both photos were taken while the child was standing on a sidewalk.
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