@DrTCombs If I remember correctly, you have the Benno Boost? I can't imagine there's too much discerpancy in rack length, but I wonder if the lower rack on the HSD makes for more favorable geometry in that regard - legs & feet being a bit lower down relative to pedaling feet

@dx yep, and aside from being boring and noisy and slightly too large for me, the heel-on-toe thing is the only real problem I've got with it. The rack probably isn't any longer than on the tern, but it does sit higher.

the kid'll grumble about having a lower seat but I'll be having too much fun to hear her (assuming I come up with a good enough reason to upgrade other than intense, implacable desire)

@DrTCombs We've got a boost (first gen, so not even the newer ones with the sexy seat tube battery placement), but we've also got a second kid now. Eventually in 2-3 years we will probably need/want 2 ebikes for occasions where one kid-parent pair is going to a different place than the other. So I'm hoping that gives me a good excuse for a new bike :)

@dx @DrTCombs

On the one hand the promo pics don't seem to be very reassuring with regards to the game of physiological tetris you're playing

On the other hand it does show the passenger with their knees forward and not their toes, which suggests it's possible your passenger could be trying harder lol

@pleaseclap @dx oh, my passenger could definitely be trying harder. just in general.