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Hypothesis: Six-lane arterials do not belong in cities. They are inherently dangerous, uncomfortable, have a barrier effect, and antagonistic to any activity outside a motor vehicle.

Support: Walmart on H St NW going under.

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@bikepedantic As a shortcut for questions like this, I just wander around Utrecht in Google Maps. My conclusion on this question is that they are acceptable in a limited area as part of offramp and onramp management of a limited access radial highway at the edges of the city. Also, this intersection is hilarious. #utrecht #engineering #safety google.com/maps/place/Utrecht,

@bikepedantic Note there are still protected bike lanes and sidewalks here, plus street #trees

@Lyle and in many places, any road that has two or more thru lanes in any direction is access-controlled, because they are so incompatible with non-driving.

@bikepedantic It was a shame that they built those buildings without having wider sidewalks in front of them. Sure, the building at N. Cap. is older, but it wasn't *that* long ago the rest of that block (including the Walmart building) was GPO surface parking, so it really is a missed opportunity.

@bikepedantic your hypothesis is that Walmart is incompatible with bad urbanism? Check your math king

@bikepedantic I agree with the hypothesis, but are you referring to h st or n cap here? I used to shop here several times a week, and I’m not sure the lack of pedetrianism at this particular spot is necessarily attributable to one street or another.

@Jerbaron its immediate frontage on H, but the fact that it's more generally in a somewhat dead intersection of downtown is probably helped along by being wedged between 395, N Cap, and H.

@bikepedantic agreed. It also doesn’t help that k will always be preferable for crossing n cap and accessing NE, Cobb park has been closed for like 5 years, and the gpo/Douglas buildings offer nothing for anyone else. If they start enforcing the new bus lanes on H, we’ll see

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