Remind me again how building a 6 lane subterranean motorway and still retaining 4 lanes on Harris Street (and removing a pesky pedestrian crossing to improve car speeds!) Constitutes 'balancing movement and place'?

@jedsetter I really dislike that considering a cycleway on Broadway (deeper in the document) also falls under 'balancing movement and place', like cycling is just something we do for urbanist ornamentation, not a form of movement

@jroper yeah m&P is tricky. one of the main uses of our street space is car storage, is that movement (storing a vehicle) or place (safety shield between pedestrians and traffic)? it's kind of both, kind of neither. I'm not sure a framework that doesn't account for such a significant streetspace element is as useful as it could be.

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@jedsetter Yeah. I suppose a charitable explanation wrt to the cycleway is that this plan would only cover a short segment of Broadway so on its own not provide much movement for cyclists, but a cycleway could act as a safety shield + removing the delivery cyclists from the footpaths, so improving the place for pedestrians.

Of course they could and should just be more imaginative with the cycleway extent instead of continuing with plans for convoluted back street routes.

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