The headline feature on this one might be the battery that integrates into the downtube, which looks super clean, and the blue color option, which we know from science, is faster.

@bikepedantic Weight: 82.3 lb. (one size)

Are you sure that's a battery in there and not concrete?

@bikepedantic That's a decent mid-range price too. Not a massive manufacturer but they make solid e-bikes.

@Seb I’ve never heard a bad word about them, every one of their bikes that I’ve ever seen looks good, and I really like that they predate the ebike rise

@bikepedantic I'm old enough to remember when you could actually keep track of the models of cargo bikes out there. Because there were, like, six of them.

@bikepedantic Okay, I guess Haul-a-day too. But I was thinking big dummy/xtracycle as one.

@bikepedantic hope Rad Power's been working on RW5 because between this and the Lectric there's basically no reason to consider an RW4 and its single point of failure tire size anymore

@bikepedantic very nice to see turn signals and dropper post... that 7 speed freewheel though 🤢.
I'm torn on the integrated battery: slick but moves too much weight up and forward (the tail is already heavy, so this makes lifting the front wheel to pivot more difficult) and then it's not a standard pack that can be replaced and upgraded easily like the Lectric ones.

@enobacon Torque sensor here vs cadence on the Lectric, but if i'm in the market rn, i'm probably going Lectric

@bikepedantic @enobacon Aventon and Trek releasing models like this is good for pressuring the other "everykindabike" manufacturers to compete in this category

I wish they weren't all playing it safe by copying Tern: a $2200 copy-bullitt would sell numbers

@pleaseclap every year or so on the old site, i'd ping QBP to rip off the Bullitt with a crmo Surly... Cheese Danish? @enobacon

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It feels dogmatic, like their unwillingness to distribute for e-commerce

"we're US manufacturers we do longtails only"

@pleaseclap you know they have like one guy who rode a bullitt in like 2013, couldn't get used to the tiller-steering, declared after 30 secs of riding that he hated it, and stands in the way of an All-City frontloader to this day.@enobacon

@bikepedantic @enobacon Right it's like, they like parties but they haven't considered putting the cooler and the grill in a bike instead of a van

@pleaseclap @bikepedantic yuba supercargo with hub motor, though DIY is ~$4k with rain canopy and only a 350W front hub.

@enobacon the supermarche just looks wrong. I'm sure it's a great bike, but taking a frontloader and just slapping a smaller rear wheel on it just doesn't look right, and it shouldn't matter, but does. @pleaseclap

@bikepedantic the smaller wheel is totally fine (it rides very smooth, maybe a longer wheelbase than most?) but I did change the handlebar to something much more upright and narrower. IMO they just need a suspension front fork and the integrated rear rack is severely under-rated at 80lb, worsely under-supplied with accessories (i.e. seat and footrests with bike towing ability) @pleaseclap
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It's that regular-bike rear end, thing: it's key to the bakfiet design because it means you can put regular-bike parts on it

@pleaseclap @bikepedantic 😂 my regular bike is an edgerunner! 20in rear wheels are the standard here.

@bikepedantic @enobacon @pleaseclap Counterpoint: every cargo bike should have an integrated rear rack with 80lbs+ of capacity.

@kevinschaper @bikepedantic @enobacon @pleaseclap This is correct.

When I got my cetma a decade ago, one of the first things I did was stick an Axiom rack on it. 50kg load capacity. I do wish it was integrated, though.

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@enobacon @bikepedantic

I've got a 750w mid-drive with a very pleasing torque sensor and it could pedal itself uphill if it wasn't using my toes as a throttle

Makin me re-evaluate my feelings about throttle-based DIY kits

@bikepedantic yes, and I noticed the flexible stem listed as a con, but isn't it the same one? If I got the lectric I would be looking to add a tsdz motor and another front chainring.

@enobacon @bikepedantic I wish my Kombi was 7 or 8 speed so I could use the same chains as the rest of my fleet!

@Andres4NY on a cassette freehub motor body though, so you're not stuck at 7? @bikepedantic

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