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@MacropodCare@theblower.au got a recipe for this beauty?

@ckent @tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas wow, that pie chart should be illegal. (Probably would be if it was a private advertisement for something, on the basis of misleading information?)

@jakecoppinger Jeez, it just gets worse. Especially the 'removal' -> 'modify' stuff. The way spin has come to permeate so many levels of our government, the lack of trust to speak honestly to their constituents...

I'm going to email you some thoughts on the blog though (too long for here).

@maegul @ajsadauskas yeah the design doesn't cue this at all. I was on one of them recently too and didn't notice the signs or realise it was meant to be a pedestrianised street. There was a raised footpath, so I stayed on it. Making the whole street level, probably with discreet bollards to keep some safer space for pedestrians, makes it much more obvious.

@milesmcbain haha no I just appreciate the results of the competition. I mostly use vroom and I was so happy when I found it.

@milesmcbain as an easily distracted PhD student I really appreciate it. Disruptions to the workflow otherwise risk falling into the lap of the internet...

@SydneyCyclewaysFan (as you said indeed). Maybe it’ll work out in the long run though depending if there is a proper plan for McEvoy section…

@SydneyCyclewaysFan yeah, another cyclist I saw was riding the wrong way on the westbound lane to do that. I pointed out the other lane to him in case he hadn’t noticed (who can predict what’s going on in this city) but he said he wasn’t taking it because he was turning right imminently… The lanes are a decent width so we passed easily, but two way might be better in this case.

Even if you’re going straight the offical ‘cycle route’ is the footpath to the right at McEvoy.

@vespasianvs yeah we have that one already but no one knows about it so often you’re taking your life in your hands to assert it… Design helps though, eg continuous/raised footpaths.

@ckent @tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas Lol at the people lining up on Tuesdays, I do remember. And regular Monday mornings too. People you could buy it on ~any day~. But apps & cards fix that.

And yeah, if I had to pick one general philosophy to payment frequency/timing it would probably be to make driving more pay-per-trip, including the positive side - easy availability of goget etc. But the other way is interesting to think about too.

@ckent @tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas mmm yeah I guess the cognitive burden comes in because they are often zone based and you have to do gymnastics to work out what zone to pay for and how to travel outside it - but smart cards could make that easier.

Just trying to think of ways to make it more like hopping in your car (sure, you have to buy petrol as you go but you don’t have anything saying “this specific trip will/did cost $6 in petrol”).

@starry1086 @CiaraNi @justafrog And re former yes difficult from Australia too. I'd love for us to reinvent efficient ocean liners (no pools etc). Taking a week to sail to Europe (from the US) would require and encourage less frequent, longer intercontinental travel, not frequent 2-week holidays; but slow travel has many benefits.

I read someone once who had a rule of spending 1 day at the destination for every hour in the air; a starting point at least for changing habits.

@starry1086 @CiaraNi @justafrog Re latter maybe resolve by using it differently to how BP intended. If intended to be a useless concept because only a few people will reduce their carbon footprint voluntarily and others will just take up the slack, it could be used in a mandatory way via carbon taxes or some kind of carbon budget...

Glad I stumbled into this corner of mastodon, I think about this stuff a lot!

also I'm not at all sure that drivers are actually required to give way here under current NSW law; but in this case ignorance is a positive & the design is successful in conveying the intent that they should give way, and they do.

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Went out of my way just to enjoy this nice new crossing on Mitchell Road.

Still some awkwardness where the two-way cycling becomes one-way (behind the pedestrians) but it’s a very quiet street over there so it’s probably ok.

@tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas @TheOne but this is all just tinkering compared to competitive speed, frequency, and reach/door-to-door time.

@tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas @TheOne Well not perhaps, obviously more difficult. Discounted monthly passes already used to exist, and I don't see that they're technically incompatible with smart-card systems.

Monthly or yearly passes could be salary sacrified and/or a welfare benefit, resulting in many people getting effectively free PT - but seeing it differently from general free PT, as a thing of value that they paid for/were given and should take advantage of... maybe.

@tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas @TheOne Free PT is one way to align payment frequency (well, remove the pay-per-trip and replace it with nothing), but another is discounted long term public transport passes, creating pre-commitment to taking public transport. And another, perhaps more politically difficult, is road fares per car trip....

@tom_andraszek @ajsadauskas @TheOne I don't think people are entirely rational economic access-seeking actors on a per-trip basis. I'm more interested in the psychological difference between pay-per-trip (transit) and pay-once-a-year (car insurance, rates - plus monthly payments if you have a lease, but you can't just not pay them if you don't drive, it's a long term commitment too).

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